In Recess #7: "Robot Ban"

We recorded this week’s episode live at the Washington, DC offices of Akin Gump. We’re joined by two members of the firm’s Supreme Court and Appellate Practice—Pratik Shah, a former Assistant to the Solicitor General, and Martine Cicconi, who worked in the White House Counsel’s office and clerked for Justice Ginsburg. We talk through the strategy behind the firm’s win in Patchak v. Zinke, reflect on their important amicus brief in Trump v. Hawaii, and discuss how to build a successful Supreme Court practice in an increasingly crowded field. 

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